Should we consider this in the UK?
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I’d say it could be voluntary thing. I don’t have an issue with it but some may.
rialto has a whopping 56 cops… Any drop will be significant.
I was initially not too sure, but if it highlights the morons we’re dealing with 95% of the time, it can only be a good thing…
Would never happen…purely down to cost. Some forces do it already but not as a compulsory thing as far as I know and certainly not for every Officer. As I remember from my time as a CPO for Notts city council (on Police airwave) its difficult enough to get a radio battery at the start of some shifts…let alone anything else.
Used them in South Wales and they were awesome. As long as we can turn them off between calls. Banter in the crewroom or car should stay there
Several PCSO’s wear them in my area but I’ve hardly seen response officers with them.
Quite a few are starting to use them more now. They were using them in the latest series of traffic cops and my force has used them I believe
I’m a cop across the pond now and it’s a voluntary thing – at least as my major agency. Cops want to wear them but there’s a fear that the video will be used to catch conversations that aren’t enforcement related where you talk smack about your sgt or whatever… There’s also a huge concern that they will be used to nit pick tactical decisions that lead up to a shooting, use of force etc. Great bit of kit if you have an administration that you trust…. If not, maybe not….
Not to mention the invasion of privacy issue. Recording in people’s houses and such.
And with my grace that thing would be broken… Or drop into a random puddle like my damn phone.
A definite yes, as long as they can be turned off during meal breaks (assuming we get 1)
Id gladly wear one. – can see the advantages for both sides
Do the reductions highlighted here reflect 1. improved behaviour by patrol officers, or 2. offenders feeling less confident to make groundless complaints that cannot be proven or disproven?
Both
They will obviously drastically reduce false allegations and can provide good evidence……… However as someone who had a central board accused of lieing because I recalled events in a slightly different order to the cctv showed (I was exonerated as everything I said did happen I just got a couple of things in the wrong order, we all make mistakes) will officers be allowed to view their own footage to enable them to complete a more accurate statement post incident and prevent such mistakes/errors, or will the cps and the “job” allow minor mistakes as a consequence of stress/recall/auditory and visual exclusion, bad memory/relevance of events to the individual……. Or will we see more cases thrown and officers in serious trouble?
Many coppers use video in Queensland, most can be activated as needed, eg for traffic intercepts and dealing with suspect/offenders. They’re not recording all the time. Same with audio recording. They are a god send on many levels, not least when ticketed motorists write in complaining about a ticket and or the issuing officer. I have had many such over the years which have been shown to be completely spurious by the audio/video. Officers here source their own kit, as nothing is provided by the QPS (Queensland Police Service). They are great for the magistrate too, who here seem to be reluctant to accept an officers version without some additional corroboration.
Yes
Already got them
Cheshire have some as part of a pilot
Yes if it reduces malicious allegations. Only thing I would be concerned about is that it may affect the officers discretion.
It’s a requirement for weekend policing in Aberdeen.
All response have to wear them in some divisions in w.yorks, but not the whole force as it’s a trial. But it’s had some good results and complaints are down. Everyone needs them.
In a changing litigious world I can see these as a very good idea. Having served in a different age I am glad we didn’t have them.!
TVP have had cameras for many years but last year rolled out new kit, and a lot more of it so that there is normally at least one camera running when officers go to a job. Excellent for showing person’s behaviour for public order, D&D, victim’s first account etc. Ideal for refuting malicious complaints too.
Could prevent spurious claims of police brutality
We already do use video camera while on duty. Although I think every officer should have a camera. The uses are limitless.
It depends how they work. If they can be turned off and on then we’ll be open to allegations of tactically switching them off. If they’re on all the time then will they be randomly checked and end up being disciplined for parade room or meal room conversations?
Very careful consideration needs to be given.
Only one i’ve heard about in my force is one similar to what Homer wore once….
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Personally i think every police man or police woman or pcso should wear a cctv device it protects them as well as the public regarding complaints and wether correct use of force was applied and wether it was required. So all in all i think its a great idea its all down to cost as usual.